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Friday, August 18, 2017

AMERICAN CONTRACTOR UPDATE, 18 AUGUST

In the country of Yemen, the Central Bank of Aden has made a poor decision to float their exchange rate.   We have dinar experts (I use that term used loosely) in the dinar community that think that the float in Yemen is a great idea.  I can tell you that it is not.  There are numerous groups and organizations that are against floating the currency and are asking others to follow suit and not follow the floating free market exchange rate.  As it stands, there will be banks and ATM machines closing in Yemen, thanks to the corrupt practice of the Saudi supported Central Bank of Aden.

WSOMN CHAT, 18 AUGUST

TED1016: 
Thursday morning and the beat goes on. Still shifting feelings from all the Intel providers with new or recycled Intel provider showing us to get noticed during the last hurrah before the balloon goes up. Good to hear from some of the old voices. We go on with predictions of at any time or anytime next week so we just sit back and watch the parade go by while holding on to our currency.

I understand many of us are getting Text and message with links that will allow us to change our passwords for various sites. Understand people these message are false. The instigators of this option is planning to use your new passwords then enter your sites and immediately change your password again so that you will no longer be able to access the various Internet sites.

Most Gracious and Heavenly Father we ask for assistance to keep these people from doing harm to our members by blocking them out from all of their websites. We have all been made of this but I believe despite all our best efforts to keep everyone notified but realistically we know there will be some who fall through the cracks and become discouraged. Protect our members and those in need.

Dear Lord God Almighty, help us to see pass the ones who are dedicated to discouraging us from believing this event will ever happen in our lifetime. The road to this happening seems cluttered with confusion and distrust, please guide us to the path You have chosen for us to follow. Amen and Amen

Rest well my friends our goal is still within reach and we need to keep our spirts high as we await the coming blessings. Thank you for all the good things that have come along as we travel down this road in the final lap of our trek.



so Okie is jumping back into the thick of things?

LASZLO- DID HIS PLANE LAND YET?

Laszlo....It was always in the plan of the intel people that Okie would be the man to make a certain announcement, since he was primarily the man who let the cat out of the bag in the first place.
I think he should change his name to Job.



 

Did anyone listen to the Okie conference so-called I've only read briefly Recaps but it sure doesn't sound like things he would say it actually sounds a lot like Joseph or Bruce even I mean the writing anyway I don't know about listening to it. Whenever I see so many try and explain Zim as a bond it's a major red flag just saying

Okies connection is Dick Chaney supposedly


 

I RESPECT OKIE, BUT HIS PREDICTIONS HAVEN'T BEEN ANY BETTER THEN THE REST


 

Good morning a quick drive-by as my husband is in the hospital and I need to get there. I tried to listen to the call with Okey last night but the call kept shutting off and said it wasn't available did anyone else have that problem?

The way I took what Okie said was it was to Start, not that we would be in the bank today.... " I have been told that our rv will occur from 6 pm tonight til 9 am in the morning. That will be the *official time it will start*"


 

GOOD MORNING. QUICK DRIVE BY. NEWS IS MAKING ME BELIEVE SOMETHING IS GOING ON FOR SURE BEHIND THE SCENE AS I HAVE BEEN DATING FOR THE PAST TWO WEEKS BUT THE END GAME IS STILL SNOWING CERTAIN.

Saying not dating.

Good Morning! Heard Okie on call last night, he really sounded good. I wonder who could be the second from the top to give him intel and it now after 9 am in the east?

Well...it doesn't really matter anymore....once again a smoke & mirrors prediction...the proof is on the puddin!!! We are still not exchanging yet!!! ( sigh!!!) It is not Okie's fault!!! The ptb passed the fake intel to him....he simply passed it on to us!



LIsten, an rv and a ce are 2 separate things. No necessarily one right after the other. After an rv there are still plenty of delaying tricks (err, excuses lol) they can keep pulling out, like the 'ole standard one: " Oh, there was a minor glitch and we need 24-48 hrs to straighten it out".

Remember, the guru who was incarcerated once said the rv occured a couple of years ago (I heard it on his cc), and lot of peeps believed it because of who was saying it.

GM all....if it really did start, some members here are in groups. I know one said he would let us know if he gets called to go in. so again we, WAIT (But hey, it's GREAT to be in the line few even know about!)

If the admiral himself told me it was going to hsppen tomorrow i would not pass it on until im out of the bank, it just hurts too much to be wrong for the hundredth time

See "Few" - well, only about 5 million of us, depending on which guru you choose to believe. Still, a good place nonetheless, I suppose.

ej. If this doesn't pan out fairly quick after last night's prognostigation, okie's judgement may take a hit. But for the time being we'll all give him a pass and wait and see.


 

snickers, I know it's grown even since I got in but I still have NO ONE to look in the eye and share the journey with. Very Thankfully I do have two friends (a couple) I can at least talk on the phone with who are are this journey. The 5 million are in hiding if they are near me.. Ha!

Okie did say it was not a Sure Thing...but did stress he got it from a very good contact. I still want to hear it if someone thinks their source is Very credible like that.

See I know of what you speak. Me too. There are only 2-3 people that I would talk to about this (not including my spouse), but I choose not to. I've put a very tight lid on things.


 

it's process! the fact that Okie got reliable information and he decided to pass it on was great...it's a starting time in which the RV could begin...NOT that you are going to thebank just yet! Also Admin just stated he is hearing that the curtain is starting to snow! Enjoy your day and be happy!

Because of the gift letter thing, I told our son. He thinks I'm a loon now. Wish I had known I could set up at trust for him after, and just pass money over from our trust afterwards. oh well.

I agree with you mangelo. I really think it's started and we are not in a position to see it.....Yet.



 

I see we have three 8's in todays date, if I understand correctly. Aug is 8th month---Day 17 is 1+7=8----year is 2017 (1+7=8 ) #8 is New Beginnings


 

mangelo ... what you said below ... "the curtain is starting to snow??" Hmmmm ....

Hope AB will explain the Snow thing.....typo? or not?....he does live where it snows. We don't use the word snow word down here in the south.


 

I believe it's starting to snow  

I think it may have something to do with a snowball's chance .....

RC: How did you like elmer12345's post about his contact in Iraq! Sweet!


 

drl, that post by Elmer is from July and I believe it was referring to the bonds, not sure, but someone else said it was referring to the bonds.


 

Not so good for the Stock Markets today. Could be a good thing for us,

Trying to figure out which bill to pay or hold off and use what cash is left for food and utilities


 

WHERE DID THIS BENNY GUY COME FROM, NEVER HEARD OF HIM

Says he has been around for 4 yrs

One day a week or so ago he showed up on my YouTube feed

I think most are sick and tired of all the nonsense in Dinarland - nothing left really to say - let it just happen.


 

sand are you in gladiators, if so, benny has been there for awhile.


 

No, never heard of them. I've been in Dinarland less than 2 years


 

From my Cuban friend -- Benny's Spanish report is the same as the one he did about the Zim and the bolivar. He told everyone to be ready.

Sand did u see the benny video on the zim


 

One day he talked about it, IHO he thought it is worthless. He's pro on the other currencies

HEY GKEL AND RC WHAT COLOR DO WANT THE MOD TO BE? SINCE YOU ARE THE ONLY MODS ON IT WILL BE YOUR CHOICE

I HAD A FEW GOOD FOLKS THAT COULDN'T SEE WITH WHITE BACKGROUND. RED IT IS AND RED IT WILL BE


 

STILL HEARING POSITIVE INFO BUT I HATE TO BASE EVERYTHING OF MAYBE WHEN...


 

Ted hope you doing ok with the bills

Hanging in there Diva Plan to pay what I can till the money runs out

Snickers, I'm thinking if it doesn't go this weekend, it won't be until after the 21st into next month only.

To think last year at this time I paid double to get the rush service to renew my passport. lol
Snickers, I think of all the time I ordered currency I wasted money on expedited delivery. Crazy......

BARZANI'S REFERENDUM & THE RV by islandg1211, 18 AUGUST

BARZANI'S REFERENDUM & THE RV

It's difficult to see through hype. This referendum on its face is a non-starter:

Turkey has directly stated that they will not support an independent Kurdistan. All Turkey has to do is shut down the pipeline. That's it, game over for Kurdistan. There's no way Turkey will allow an independent Kurdistan, and their president will act.

Iran has directly said that they do not support an independent Kurdistan. Iran's militias are staying in Iraq, and they, combined with Iraq's troops could easily blockade an independent Kurdistan. Iran and Iraq could capture and hold Kirkuk oil fields and pump out the oil East into Iran. Kurdistan would run out of money within a very short time with Kirkuk's oil.

Sadre has said he is not for an independent Kurdistan along with Iran's Shiite leader. Kurdistan would loose support from within their borders from their Shiite population. Even in Kurdistan the religious leaders still hold power.
Abadi has made agreements with Iran and Saudi Arabia to pump out Iraq's oil east and west so it doesn't have to go north through Kurdistan. He's buying oil tankers and the Port of Faw is operational.

Basra is booming. Abadi positioned Iraq to not having to "bend the knee" (yeah, I'm a big Game of Thrones fan) to Erbil because he is developing alternative oil export routes. Abadi had a good offer of splitting Kirkuk's 50/50 one year ago....but, we need a LAW!

The Kurds are completely responsible to come to Baghdad, sign agreements, and get the HCL law passed and settle the contested Article 140 areas.

Abadi isn't going to give Erbil their budget until that is settled. Good for him. Abadi directly said that a vote isn't Constitutional, but he would not send in troops to stop it. Again, good for him for not creating chaos, protests, and Marshall Law that would only alienate the Kurds from Baghdad. Let the voters figure out the reality of their situation on their own.

We are all sympathetic to a the largest group of people without their own country that are stuck between the Sunni and Shiite never ending conflict, that Saddam tried to exterminate. Again, they are our strongest allies. We will keep a base there. But, the reality is that an independent country isn't happening without the support of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria and the US.

Barzani and Abadi are both rational and they will come to an agreement that both knew had to get done right after the defeat of ISIS. Why? Because the reconstruction isn't going to be successful without that security.

Barzani's referendum may play well with his constituents, but it doesn't work for the international investors and oil companies. Look at what's happening the last few weeks, Abadi is getting mega deals and even is going to facilitate Saudi-Iran relations. Who would sign a deal with Barzani when they don't know what country it's going to be or the reaction of Iran and Turkey? It's one thing to drill for oil when the US has your back, it's another thing when they don't.

Barzani is loosing money right now. Baghdad will pay the troops, but not Erbil. Investors would rather invest with Baghdad right now then Erbil. That's a shift and Barzani knows that he can't spend months and months on holding this independence idea over everybody's head. He has to solve it.

IMO Barzani was using the referendum as a negotiating tactic. He floated the idea, and the other countries shot it down. He still gets political points for trying. He may get a better with Baghdad, but I suspect that he isn't going to get another more than last year's 50/50 split on the contested areas in Kirkuk.

In two weeks, ISIS will be declared defeated.

I believe BARZANI WILL REACH AN AGREEMENT ON ARTICLE 140, THE GOI WILL HAVE AN HCL BILL THAT KURDS WILL VOTE FOR, AND THE RV WILL HAPPEN as the referendum gets "postponed" until Turkey and Iran agree to it, which isn't going to happen.

Then reconstruction can truly move forward. Barzani can't keep going with this vote because he's losing business deals from the unstable situation. He will make a settlement.

DAZ UPDATE, 18 AUGUST

Daz:   ITS EASY TO BELIEVE IN JUST THE FACTS

I SUSPECT MUCH OF THE STUFF WE HAVE HEARD FROM ALL OVER THE NET OVER THE YEARS CONTAINS AN ELEMENT OF TRUTH..SOME MORE THAN OTHERS OF COURSE.

I DETERMINED LONG AGO THAT THERE HAVE BEEN VERY FEW DELAYS IN THE PROCESS. BUT THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF COURSE CORRECTIONS AND FALSE STARTS...AND THE RV WAS EVEN USED AT TIMES AS A TOOL TO PRY OPEN A FAULT OR WEAK SPOT THAT NEEDED REPAIR OR ARREST.

WITH ALL PROCESSES YOU MUST SET GOALS AND THOSE GOALS ARE MARKERS TO MEASURE PROGRESS TOWARDS A FINAL SUCCESSFUL RESOLUTION.
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SOMETIMES THOSE GOALS ARE HIT...AND SOMETIMES THEY ARE MISSED...BUT EITHER WAY YOU ADAPT, ADJUST AND TRY TO NAVIGATE A NEW OR MORE SUCCESSFUL PATH TO THE END OF IT...ULTIMATELY, IT IS JUST A PROCESS.

I ALWAYS GO BACK TO A SINGLE PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT IN PART, SHOWS CLEARLY A FEW SIMPLE FACTS. AND FOR ME, ITS THE FOUNDATION OF MY CONFIDENCE AND TRUST.

WITH THAT SAID, LETS LOOK AT WHAT WE "KNOW".

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IRAQ HAS ALWAYS BEEN A WEALTHY, RICH CULTURE WITH A STRONG HERITAGE AND SIGNIFICANT HISTORY.

IRAQ ALWAYS HAD AMPLE RESOURCES AND A STRONG ECONOMY... IN ITS OWN RIGHT.

THEIR MONEY ALWAYS HAD VALUE, HISTORICALLY AND CONSISTENTLY.

DUE TO PRESSURES TO ENACT A LIBERATION OF IRAQ AND EFFECT A REGIME CHANGE...A COALITION OF NATIONS "TURNED OFF THE MONEY (DINAR)" AS PART OF A WAR EFFORT AND STRATEGIC ASSAULT TO DEBASE THE FINANCES OF REVOLT, RESISTANCE AND INSURGENCY AGAINST THAT CHANGE IN 2004.

THERE WAS, AND STILL IS, A PLAN TO GIVE REBIRTH AND REVITALIZE THAT ECONOMY, INFLUENCE THAT CULTURE AND, EVENTUALLY EMBRACE IRAQ, ITS PEOPLE AND THEIR WEALTH AND TRADE INTO THE GLOBAL ECONOMIC FOLD.

AND, WHEN A SATISFACTORY CONDITION AND ALIGNMENT OF ALL THE VARIOUS INTERESTS AND POWER STRUCTURES INVOLVED HAVE REACHED A POINT OF REASONABLE SATISFACTION THAT THEIR INTERESTS AND GOALS ARE MET...  THEY WILL JUST AS SIMPLY.... "TURN THE MONEY BACK ON".

IT WILL ALL COME TOGETHER WITH A PUBLIC RELEASE AND PERMISSION FOR ALL OF US TO EXCHANGE IN ANY MANNER WE WANT, ALMOST ANYWHERE WE WANT...AND IT WILL BE A SAFE, ORGANIZED, ULTIMATELY FAIR AND REASONABLY SIMPLE BUSINESS TRANSACTION.

HANG IN THERE BUT...KEEP LIVIN'.

WE'RE READY WHEN THEY'RE READY.

http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/tad/exportal.aspx?memberKey1=460&date1key=2016-07-31&category=EXCHRT

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